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Post by DC634~Jaguars on Jul 7, 2010 21:54:07 GMT -5
Jaguars Trade:
Mike Sims-Walker - WR ~~~~ .55mil (2010)
Mike Thomas - WR ~~~~ .4mil (2013)
Dolphins Trade:
Greg Camarillo - WR ~~~~ 1.3mil (2011)
Brandon Marshall - WR ~~~~ 4mil (2014)
EDIT: Look at my bottom post...
OK, well i really cant stomach this trade...Marshall is a suspension waiting to happen every season...MSW is looking like a diamond in the rough, and will be getting a ton of targets in JAX...Thomas is a midget...5' 8"...but i seriously think he could turn into one of the top slot recievers in the game in a few years...hes like a Wes Welker except hes black,has a little worse hands, and much faster...Which makes it hurt not to mention im a Jags fan....Camarillo is a non-factor here..hes 4th string in Miami behind Marsh,Bess,Hartline, and now Patrick Turner is making a run for Cam's spot, but hey, might as well take the extra guy right?...Lastly, Marsh is a stud reciever...Idiot?Ya pretty much, but the guy can play football...This trade was a perfect representation to me and John as to why to not pick ur fave team as ur team cuz ur too attached to guys..yup..ok..enough?
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Post by miamidolphins on Jul 7, 2010 22:01:24 GMT -5
He said it right, dont take your favorite team. It is tough to stomach trading these guys, especially Marshall. It is painful. But, i got an offer i liked. Sims-Walker is awesome and i really like mike thomas, i see him similar to DC does. I hope this trade will be fine for me emotionally jk jk. Accepted
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2010 12:47:26 GMT -5
dont compare M. Thomas to Welker - they dont compare in abilty. Im kinda comnfused on what MIA doin here, i understand Walker put up some numbers last yr - but is it gonna happen again, i dont think he puts up the numbers. Marshall is a top 5 studmuffin, and not to mention hes locked up until 2014 and will not get suspended with the big tuna around. btw Walker contarct ends this yr. i hate to do this but veto
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Post by DC634~Jaguars on Jul 8, 2010 21:20:53 GMT -5
Dude..im sorry Troy, but i gotta argue....MSW wont do the same?really?ok..fine ur right, he will do better...He had a knee injury all of last season after surgery...Sucked at the beginning of the year...Ur right, Thomas and Welker are different types of players, but can put up the same type of stats..u deny tha?ur crazy
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Post by Jack on Jul 9, 2010 8:16:24 GMT -5
Chad Henne is going to improve greatly this year Marsh might get double the TD's MSW does with that QB they got down there in Jacksonville, im sorry Dan but i have to Veto this trade
Edit: MSw ends this year, Marshall ends in 4 years, another huge reason i Veto this trade, if the contracts were switched around i might not have vetoed this
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Post by DC634~Jaguars on Jul 9, 2010 8:29:31 GMT -5
Guys..before u vote look at these projected stats...
1533 yards 11 TD's (and thomas is a return man which isnt included here)
1647 yards 13 TD's....
Now anyone that tells me that is vetoable by not knowing the name value of Marshall in those stats, is retarded...Not to mention Thomas is an up and coming high potetnial reciever for the jags...I give my #1 and #2 recievers for a #1 and #4 reciever...The fact that Thomas's return stats could actually eclipse Cam and Marsh's stats shows just how non-vetoable it is...
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Post by Jack on Jul 9, 2010 8:39:05 GMT -5
Man im saying its vetoable because marshall has 4 more years then MSW and is already better
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Post by DC634~Jaguars on Jul 9, 2010 8:40:10 GMT -5
Thomas has 3 years and hasnt even come close to his peak...that argument to veto cuz of that is absurd
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Post by jgwhodatsaintsgm on Jul 9, 2010 10:11:32 GMT -5
alright i was wavering on what i was going to do with this trade but after looking at the numbers, some old games (yeah i do that) and just based on pure NFL knowledge....
MSW is a decent talent, not great... but either good or decent. The jags have no other wideouts, so any good talent will put up good numbers for them. He is there number 1, but being a number one for the jags isnt saying much. Thomas will never, ever in a million years be a wes welker, no way in freakin hell would that happen. He is gonna be a good slot guy but thats about it. But since MSW is now the number 1 look for teams to bracket his ass all over the field and double him every now and then. I dont know if he cant fight through the bracket coverage to be quite honest.
On the other side, brandon Marshall is top 10 wideout in my mind, yeah he is a douchebag in real life, but who cares? There are plenty of douchebags in the NFL that can straight play even if they cant pull there head out of there ass off field. Chad Henne is awesome and the big tuna is developing him right, in the next few years he is going to one of the best young gunslingers. So that helps Marshall. And dan you seriously cant say Brandon Marshall sucks.....21 catches and 201 yards receiving and 2 TDs against the colts (yeah i know but still), thats a man's work right there!!! Camo is decent for being a slot guy probably wont get much throws anymore though.
The contracts are also a problem. Brandon marshall is locked in for a while. MSW isnt.
I dont think MSW will be good this year because of the coverage on him, because of just the jags pass game (thats counts thomas too.) brandon marshall is top 10 wideout either way ans i dont think the value matches up.
sorry but VETO
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Post by blacksunshine3006 on Jul 13, 2010 15:33:55 GMT -5
The contracts of Marsh and MSW are enough for me on this not to mention the talent level difference.
Sorry guys, but Veto
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